Nov 3, 2017|
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Conversations I'm your host Greg Thomas S thanks for spending time with us here on the Sunday. Joining us today is our guest Kathy flood the CEO of cascade game foundry which is best known for a game called infinite. Scuba. Kathy thanks so much for joining us about it and join us as we look at the issues that affect us here at home and our community and around the nation. It's great to show a little bit more well rounded side of the game development environment when we have such a strong woman. As a CEO of the company as well as being so interested in science and helping to spread an ecological message to the Puget Sound and beyond. That's fantastic and ultimately to suck because I'm to understand that infinite scuba is your. Wonderful work and game that brings us to the ocean without all the well it's all the water instead of the scuba dive exact dealer perhaps I'll give us a rundown of what the game is and how we got two were rat right now with the police. Scared to gain mid drift in the diving simulator and our goal was to show people what in the ocean around here though hopefully be inspired to protect it. So I am whereas a small indie studio so we only have rekindled their fulltime and then we have depending on the week to around three year. They're five lookup a part time. And we build different regions make sure that the science behind diving is correct so you burn warrior deeper you go to faster you go. And the older you are. And that picture becomes relevant in the I think we're building now which is in Puget Sound. Taylor keyed all. Has seen anywhere dry suit without one you can get in in a surety or something which not gonna last very long like you wouldn't in the real world. While you're using so many technical terms sir I mean their putted a technical facility. So which jargon from the business is does it get to that level of detail when you're playing. Arm if you wanted to make us. For some people the experience to be. They've been being in the ocean is something that they are not familiar with that they haven't done on and they're not looking for the client behind it you can just went around and two very relaxing experience tested to look the wildlife. Or people who want to learn about diving you're exposed to scientific concept about what it means to the body in pressure. It's a different amateur to pressure the deeper you go. To their consumption rate different you get to become like generic post this if you go down below ninety feet. So I see you know I'm on the screen weighs a little bigger controls aren't quite as precise. Attempting as a diver you train for everybody reacts differently to being under pressure. But all the wildlife is real but I implications are real the dive years real. We were with environmentalists. On most notably doctor Sylvia Earle. Done National Geographic Explorer in residence in the time magazine hero for the planet should actually on the cover. On when they did the women's covers several weeks ago. She was one of the people on. And she's just a hero for the ocean and somebody who would strike has been trying to raise awareness. Fragility of the ocean. For her entire career which is back in the 1950. Yeah it's incredible full list of people that I have seen underwear upset that are involved in this it really wins yourself a lot of credibility. Indies finance aspect of this did you set out originally to have suing that was. Scientifically accurate or was it more about having to gain more teaching tool that what was your Roger Hannah when he first went diving into this pardon upon terrible. And when we started we definitely want to have a really high bar in terms of defiance of the that you. Such as we can make it available free to schools and have it be eighty. A useful tool for teaching used so a way to get a student who might not have any other exposure to being in the ocean. Kids do it likened to learn about what's there. One of the things we discovered through our our outreach to reduce schools so we go. Talk to schools in person are tired Skype or Google account or whatever. And I got in Iowa and it wouldn't surprise me a whole lot of the kids they're didn't know much about the oceans. I couldn't have known for its scuba diving culture I'll off the. Mom or my mom and actually through I did she get through the bank and that's just very cold lake in the winter in. Table rock Missouri or something like out of there and resentment than usual. Under the not a whole lot to feed and you told educated in the midwest. Not two of you don't get in the water than religion dangerously out of it and so one of the reasons that I wanted to. To make it available free to schools and teachers are prepared a lot of people who don't have access to the ocean one thing that surprised us to a living in Washington. A lot of people in Washington who have never even into their own coast analyzed school kids in particular. And then we were surprised earlier we showed the game. Don't. One much of the world conservation congress in Honolulu last year and their luck kid can hold why you don't get in the water and their issues are a bit. It they're afraid of sharks I know sharks have a very undeserving big reputation. I was shocked are you kidding me people come from all over the world to go snorkeling and and diving in Hawaii and and there were quite a lot of the local kid who just cannot open water. Well. And it's really it's it's an easy thing to look at the ocean is flat it's lasted it looks beautiful and people just assume everything is good under the circus because they don't really know would there. Until we want to game to be published show people it there and hopefully they would understand how they're connected to that their own health are the help help the planet disconnected the ocean. And I'm reading from infinite scuba dot com right now if you were a teacher you were likely a cross between a rock star and a saint but at a sobering thought you make these it's learning too cool not just a game itself but also the ability to who you can have fun and learn about stuff which is always the thing I Herman I was a kid that may mean like skeptical but looking at your the into whips and screen shots everything here it's beautiful. Now I'm fascinated by the idea that recently you've taken it a step further to jump into the virtual reality world what's that transition like. That's really interesting. One bit. One of the challenges that our game as a whole is it. Diving they keep stimulating dived to sport diving it's it's a very placid so you're rewarded for going slowly. You let there sick if you are walking you're gonna burn less care. Compared to running. Same thing when you're diving and so in order to stay down longer one of the golden divers to learn to relax. Completely relaxed and so kind of like doing Tai chi in the water. Are you going from. From a black screen game to aid to VR game. We did for the longest time we were sitting on top of that and our culture yet kit forum. And wanted to it was about two years it would it was literally and endorse stopped. And gathering dust off its. Because there's just no installed base where and so none of the partners that we were working with you weren't that into student. Rounds at the time schools weren't interested. Museums or an interest did for a variety of reasons. And so lead just kept. Working on the game self well talking to the players that we have. They wanted more locations. They wanted. Other thing they want and weren't here. And they weren't. Into the B arsenic exit had wishes the public. And then a year ago one of our environmental partners mission blue. Axis of footage showed the game down at the architect and it was right around the time that doctor expressed NH TT five. Became a publicly hot. So we cracked open indication and heard. Much or punishment we didn't even own a computer and that could run TR. And we work with and hell and we we have that I've. Early big variety of machines to make sure that you've run on would be great if she'd. None of them had the horsepower to run run PR which was shopping basket we had some great stuff. I'm so that was the first that was the first big surprise second big surprised. We knew that we had future group. That illegal for the flat screen him so me specifically built on. Higher resolution then many of the computers. That run on regular game would need. To be ready as time went on didn't want to have to go a brand and later. Delegates needed to simplify them and Obama but the second big shock was when we first got begin running in ER. Games typically will lock to edit their differences second or sticky and second because. Refresh rate. Of the monitors. So the hardware a gate that. Quickly and in your Ike and some people are are kind of friendly canaries you can really tell the difference. And it can not hitting one of those if you're not quite hitting thirty or sixty. There's a caring that happened in the game so look like it doesn't. I've refreshed. And quite mainly. What happened in typical games and movies stand up for comparison on the 24 and second they're running on. Unconventional movie. And digital movies and on Mormon alike the thirty feet. So to run BR though you're running ninety frames and you're in you're having to do it twice so once for each I trust as their separate. Screamed inside had. So that's a huge challenge from a performance and you have to make sure that you've got. An environment that can. Actually update that quickly if you don't if you don't make that then that's what that that's what makes people keep it inside BR. Had no idea. Yes so far mathematical talent that's one of the reasons that it's not a simple thing at all two to update from our two. Change from a conventional game two BR and the performance challenges are huge. I'm trying to read and you can't take it a game we can't take some sort of high end video games and run it on the phone for example that you're not of course Howard do. That's why it matters to keep you keep that up when the high and headset as opposed to just a group of course we're. If if the and. A lot of confusion in the marketplace around. In terms of the terminology people think of it they've done Google cardboard I've done BR home. I knew how to because they've kind of talked to determine that make it very different experience on on on a high and headset lurching truly immersive and your your location your behavior in that station actually matters. Are you are you satisfied with the results you've seen from your own conversion of infinite scuba to VR. This is fascinating I'm afraid we're out of time which is unfortunate because I can I have ten more questions to ask you so visual circle back around some time and cover some of these other issues they have to take so much for taking the time to tell us about the work you're doing here in Seattle such a great community for independent developers a near Macon. That case front and center for us. I think he's a great place for environmentalist is so we're really excited to be what it was that some of the local environmentalists to make sure that this is. The Puget Sound registry act and. Again the game is called infinite scuba and it's made locally by cascade game foundry CEG. Find out more about the game at infinite scuba dot com to get downloads are playing Florida for the Puget Sound. Conversations is a public affairs program of the station have a wonderful weekend.